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I know we've moved past it but Id just like to point out that all of the Dakota schools are far behind schools like Loyola, Illinois State and Missouri State in the US News and World Report rankings of National Universities. As far as the claim that the Dakota schools have superior support, Loyola has a larger endowment than SDSU and NDSU combined.

If you are following this thread you likely have picked up on this by now, but UND people have a VERY high opinion of themselves for some odd reason.
I used to hear the phrase “we like the cold, bc it keeps the rid-raf out”.
It always struck me as odd at how well they thought they were doing in the world.

RamblerFan wrote:I know we've moved past it but Id just like to point out that all of the Dakota schools are far behind schools like Loyola, Illinois State and Missouri State in the US News and World Report rankings of National Universities. As far as the claim that the Dakota schools have superior support, Loyola has a larger endowment than SDSU and NDSU combined.

In fact, you'd have to combine the endowments of USD, UND, SDSU and NDSU just to equal Loyola's.

I think its either pie in the sky or oil in the sand. You can choose which.

Are you suggesting it's the Dakotas or nothing? That any team we could seek to add with Murray State either: 1. Is a speculative play that requires some belief on the part of the MVC that they will be a good addition one day or 2. Is a school like SLU or Belmont who doesn't want to come but we will futilely chase anyway leaving us with nothing?

VUGrad1314 wrote:Are you suggesting it's the Dakotas or nothing? That any team we could seek to add with Murray State either: 1. Is a speculative play that requires some belief on the part of the MVC that they will be a good addition one day or 2. Is a school like SLU or Belmont who doesn't want to come but we will futilely chase anyway leaving us with nothing?

Am stating that the Dakota's simply won't accept, simply because they have bigger plans for football and the MVC won't accommodate that. Mo St and Ill St need to upgrade fb, but the MVC simply won't listen. If firmly stating an opinion is egotistical, some posters here have a strange idea of ego. The Ohio Valley residents equate strong opinions wth ego as in their view its not neighborly, and they are so in error.

By the way, have lived for long stretches in the Ohio Valley region and further south, and doubt many of the OV residents would have the where-with-all, long term planning skills and psychological fortitude to survive Dakota winters.

^^^ exhibit A in the “weird, self-aggrandizing; that living by yourself in the cold” creates.

Meeting's in less than two weeks. Would love an update on where we stand on this issue which schools are in play etc. Still hoping for Murray State and Belmont but would take NKU Wright State maybe even UIC. As much as I'd like it to I don't see NMSU happening.

VUGrad1314 wrote:Meeting's in less than two weeks. Would love an update on where we stand on this issue which schools are in play etc. Still hoping for Murray State and Belmont but would take NKU Wright State maybe even UIC. As much as I'd like it to I don't see NMSU happening.

Guess we’ll have to wait a couple weeks to hear from Mark Adams or Father Harry. SaintLouBrave said ”From what I have heard, there has already been enough meetings to map out how Arch Madness would go for next year and there is not only contingencies in place for 12, but STL has already been informed that 12 is a very real possibility for next season.” He’s usually a good source (he recently got the Arch Madness seating charts before anyone else) so we’ll see.

That's exciting. Where did you read that? Also did he give any indication as to who would be coming?