Early Look Ahead

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Re: Early Look Ahead

Postby jackwagon » February 2nd, 2018, 6:01 pm

Redhawk wrote:
Blers wrote: I would take last years trio + Willis over next seasons group (at this point).


I respectfully disagree with you. Consider that you are comparing Senior seasons last year to Junior seasons of the current trio.

In my mind next year:
Fayne > Hawkins
Yarbrough > McIntosh
Paris = Evans ( Paris better defense/Key better offense)
Copeland > Willis

Plus the balance of the rotation will be considerably better with Williams, Tinsley, Bruninga, Clarance & King David. If Milik stays top 3 no problem. If he leaves still top 5.


Hahaha talk about delusional! Funny what a few wins does for a fan base. Weren't you down 40 in a valley game like a week ago with that cast of characters? Comparing that group to one that went 17-1 is laughable
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Re: Early Look Ahead

Postby Redbirds4Life » February 2nd, 2018, 9:09 pm

We absolutely knew, MM was leaving. Oregon absolutly came out of nowhere, but it was pretty well known that he wasn’t coming back to a team without Paris, Tony and Deontae. That was pretty clear before the year even started.
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Re: Early Look Ahead

Postby Redhawk » February 2nd, 2018, 10:29 pm

jackwagon wrote:
Hahaha talk about delusional! Funny what a few wins does for a fan base. Weren't you down 40 in a valley game like a week ago with that cast of characters? Comparing that group to one that went 17-1 is laughable


You do realize that 17-1 team lost a game by 41 so I guess they suck!
They also were 18-14 as Juniors!
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Re: Early Look Ahead

Postby jackwagon » February 3rd, 2018, 8:15 am

Ah yes. I forgot losing to a ranked Wichita at Koch is the same as a sub .500 team in the vaunted Hulman Center! I'll eat my words if you turn out being correct, but in my mind there is no way on gods green earth this ISUR team reaches their level.
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Re: Early Look Ahead

Postby BirdsEyeView » February 3rd, 2018, 8:19 am

Redbirds4Life wrote:We absolutely knew, MM was leaving. Oregon absolutly came out of nowhere, but it was pretty well known that he wasn’t coming back to a team without Paris, Tony and Deontae. That was pretty clear before the year even started.


No we didn't. The only assumption was he would test the draft waters. But whatever. You just KNEW he was leaving all season. And tomorrow after the Super Bowl ends, you will have just known the result of that game too, right? You are a psychic, I'll call you Ms. Cleo from now on.

Muller did not expect to lose MM to transfer.
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Re: Early Look Ahead

Postby Redhawk » February 3rd, 2018, 11:00 am

jackwagon wrote:Ah yes. I forgot losing to a ranked Wichita at Koch is the same as a sub .500 team in the vaunted Hulman Center! I'll eat my words if you turn out being correct, but in my mind there is no way on gods green earth this ISUR team reaches their level.


So last years team had a “quality” 40 point loss?

Simple fact to consider....this year and next years team can do something the 17-1 group couldn’t do...
Make the NCAA tournament!
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Re: Early Look Ahead

Postby ThisIsTheLineup » February 5th, 2018, 7:48 am

Jsnhbe1Birds wrote:Malik. Whether it be NBA or P6. He will most definitely at least test the NBA as he is currently projected to be a second round pick.


MILIK* MILIK* MILIK*

If you guys are going to start making your own rumors about him at least spell his name right.
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Re: Early Look Ahead

Postby Jsnhbe1Birds » February 5th, 2018, 9:15 am

ThisIsTheLineup wrote:
Jsnhbe1Birds wrote:Malik. Whether it be NBA or P6. He will most definitely at least test the NBA as he is currently projected to be a second round pick.


MILIK* MILIK* MILIK*

If you guys are going to start making your own rumors about him at least spell his name right.


Sorry, I don't know how to spell everyone's name. What I do know though is that he is actually listed in a mock draft in the second round from ESPN. Talk to them about making up rumors. No way he goes to the NBA though. Although I do think he'll test the waters like Alize did to get feedback. He will transfer to a power conference.
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Re: Early Look Ahead

Postby valleyclimber » February 5th, 2018, 9:40 am

The whole idea of talented MVC players transferring to P5 schools has always puzzled me as there are plenty of NBA scouts checking out players that hoop in the Valley. Not sure why a player would want to chance it with a marginal P5 team if they have an opportunity to play at a Valley school that's completely loaded.

They'll be some that disagree, but I'm just not seeing it as a smart move for a player that could really shine at a Valley school and be seen by plenty of NBA scouts.

Anyhoo....rock on MVC! :buddies:
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Re: Early Look Ahead

Postby BirdsEyeView » February 5th, 2018, 9:44 am

valleyclimber wrote:The whole idea of talented MVC players transferring to P5 schools has always puzzled me as there are plenty of NBA scouts checking out players that hoop in the Valley. Not sure why a player would want to chance it with a marginal P5 team if they have an opportunity to play at a Valley school that's completely loaded.

They'll be some that disagree, but I'm just not seeing it as a smart move for a player that could really shine at a Valley school and be seen by plenty of NBA scouts.

Anyhoo....rock on MVC! :buddies:


Agreed. And to just assume players will leave because of their talent is simply hypothetical. Alize stuck around despite his clear talent on a poorly coached team. He has lots of scouts at all of his games.

Did McIntosh really improve his stock as an NBA player by leaving to go to Oregon?
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Re: Early Look Ahead

Postby Jsnhbe1Birds » February 5th, 2018, 9:52 am

BirdsEyeView wrote:
valleyclimber wrote:The whole idea of talented MVC players transferring to P5 schools has always puzzled me as there are plenty of NBA scouts checking out players that hoop in the Valley. Not sure why a player would want to chance it with a marginal P5 team if they have an opportunity to play at a Valley school that's completely loaded.

They'll be some that disagree, but I'm just not seeing it as a smart move for a player that could really shine at a Valley school and be seen by plenty of NBA scouts.

Anyhoo....rock on MVC! :buddies:


Agreed. And to just assume players will leave because of their talent is simply hypothetical. Alize stuck around despite his clear talent on a poorly coached team. He has lots of scouts at all of his games.

Did McIntosh really improve his stock as an NBA player by leaving to go to Oregon?


I'm sure averaging 9.7 points even in a power conference is not as good as 16 in the MVC.
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Re: Early Look Ahead

Postby Aces44 » February 5th, 2018, 11:13 am

For what it’s worth. It is Addition by Subtraction with our current Senior Class. Assuming Ryan Taylor stays, getting our Sr class off the floor upgrades the talent level significantly for the Aces.
For better or worse, Marty is overly loyal even when the game itself doesn’t validate it.

The league is likely better as a whole and I expect the Aces to follow suit.
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