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Re: Status/Future of the Valley

PostPosted: March 30th, 2024, 7:53 pm
by harley93davidson
TBS_20 wrote:What should be considered is 2/3 teams will eventually leave. It's not like last time where there was two ideal options. Now we're down to Denver, omaha, umkc, bellarmine, and nku. While I like the last two let's not kid ourself. Bellarmine and nku are a long way from Belmont and Murray state


I think, or at least hope UT Arlington is in play. I think it would be foolish to take any of the above listed schools over Arlington imho.

Re: Status/Future of the Valley

PostPosted: March 30th, 2024, 8:00 pm
by Fetz86
If we lose two schools it would be better to roll with the 10 we have left. Ten is ideal and we go back to the 18 game double round-robin.

Re: Status/Future of the Valley

PostPosted: March 30th, 2024, 8:12 pm
by racernation
NIL didn't change the number of scholarships in Division I. There's still just 13 slots at each school, so 4,319 total in Division I. Players may shift but there's plenty of talent to go around.

If the SEC and Big 10 break off from the NCAA, that's where the real disparity comes in... because they could offer say 18 slots instead of 13.

Re: Status/Future of the Valley

PostPosted: March 30th, 2024, 8:24 pm
by tribecalledquest
racernation wrote:NIL didn't change the number of scholarships in Division I. There's still just 13 slots at each school, so 4,319 total in Division I. Players may shift but there's plenty of talent to go around.

If the SEC and Big 10 break off from the NCAA, that's where the real disparity comes in... because they could offer say 18 slots instead of 13.


Good point.

Re: Status/Future of the Valley

PostPosted: March 30th, 2024, 9:12 pm
by Drakey
Do scholarships even matter anymore? So what if they are limited t 13 scholarships? Who needs a scholarship if you can be a walk-on and get paid $500,000. That will cover tuition and books nicely.

Re: Status/Future of the Valley

PostPosted: March 30th, 2024, 9:13 pm
by tribecalledquest
Drakey wrote:Do scholarships even matter anymore? So what if they are limited t 13 scholarships? Who needs a scholarship if you can be a walk-on and get paid $500,000. That will cover tuition and books nicely.


No walk on is getting 500K.

Re: Status/Future of the Valley

PostPosted: March 30th, 2024, 9:17 pm
by harley93davidson
Scholarships do not really matter, there is only so much playing time that can be given to players. Remember these kids want NIL money, sure, but they also want to play and prove themselves. Most kids at the D1 level have a legit shot to play professionally somewhere in the world. Compound that with the fact that not even duke is gonna give big NIL bucks to the 13th best scholarship guy and there is no reason why some talented players with aspirations of playing pro in Australia are gonna want to forgo that to ride dukes bench for marginally more NIL money.

Re: Status/Future of the Valley

PostPosted: March 30th, 2024, 10:39 pm
by ReZyNeZy
Drakey wrote:Do scholarships even matter anymore? So what if they are limited t 13 scholarships? Who needs a scholarship if you can be a walk-on and get paid $500,000. That will cover tuition and books nicely.


Avg NIL payout is 37k for basketball players. As I stated before, basketball NIL and football NIL are VERY different. Basketball doesn't pay out G Wagons, xboxes, and 6 figures like football does.

Re: Status/Future of the Valley

PostPosted: March 31st, 2024, 6:36 am
by bleach
I see no reason a traditional scholly guy can't walk on and get NIL money and a traditional non NIL guy can't get a scholly. Thus, you could have 13 scholly guys like always and pay 10 great ballplayers too.

Re: Status/Future of the Valley

PostPosted: March 31st, 2024, 7:52 am
by tribecalledquest
bleach wrote:I see no reason a traditional scholly guy can't walk on and get NIL money and a traditional non NIL guy can't get a scholly. Thus, you could have 13 scholly guys like always and pay 10 great ballplayers too.


Players aren’t going to do this. Only five guys play at once. Guys also like to play. The NIL boogeyman has gotten out of control.