Coaches controlling message boards?

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Re: Coaches controlling message boards?

Postby MVCfans » December 6th, 2011, 3:15 pm

A simple request (and a reminder). I'm not a fan of threads like this, but I also don't feel it is my position or the role of the mods to completely stifle disagreements by "choosing sides" of who is right or wrong. I would ask that the rules of the forum be kept in mind when posting:

3. Do not constantly belittle other schools or other posters.

6. No posting of any personal information about another poster. If you know another posters' real name, occupation, hobbies, etc,.....Keep it to yourself.

7. Profane language and photos are prohibited.


Thank you.
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Postby MoValley John » December 6th, 2011, 3:17 pm

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glm38 wrote:I'm not sure what to think about this whole thing. But as a Bears fan it's a little embarrassing. Being a board administrator would be VERY difficult. And I don't mean anything derogatory towards 42 - I'm just saying it's extremely difficult to stay fair an impartial at all times. I don't think I could do it.

I will say the administrator of this board MVCfans is what all board administrators should aspire to be.


I have a little history between myself and the parties involved in this fight. It dates way back to Valley Talk and the reason this fight is happening now is exactly why I was once a decent poster on VT but morphed into a midget posting, bandwidth hogging lout. The people involved are pretty much exactly as Trout describes. In fact, Trout was one of the people that I constantly fought with, but Trout didn't go to the extent of trying to destroy me that the other parties did. Trout would get mad at me and argue, he even called names, but that was about it.

And yes, it was all over Barry Hinson. While I had agreed that Barry Hinson should be fired, I didn't agree with the way he was being treated by the fans. I didn't like the threats, I didn't like the taunts, I didn't like any of the behavior being displayed toward Hinson or his family. Barry Hinson was a good coach, just not good enough. That was my assessment, I think it was fair and I agreed good isn't always good enough and he should go. Fans didn't have any reason to hate. They were justified in wanting a change but the rest was over the top.

But how dare I have an opinion that didn't match theirs!!!! How dare I say anything reasonable about a decent man who simply didn't win enough games!!! How could I come to the defense of Barry Hinson, afterall, he IS THE ANTICHRIST!!!! For that, I was name called, badgered, threatened and they attempted to gang up on me and run me off that site. I almost gave up, but then I saw their pattern, if I posted, they would all post together, berating me and trying to bully me off the site. It was amazing. When I saw what they were doing is when I came up with my defense, for every response any of them made to me, I would make 10 meaningless posts, be it pictures, movie clips, whatever. I attempted to wear them out and also dilute the crap they were saying about me. Unfortunately, I kind of liked posting all of the junk!!! And keep in mind, I kept a count of ten replies for every one post in which they attacked me. On some days, I would post 3-400 times. Yeah, the posting habit took hold, I loved posting the midgets. By the time Ron Paul became an internet viral candidate, I had my whole anti-Ron strategy waiting! I guess I should thank the boys in Missouri for that.

Needless to say, if you have an opinion that differs from them, they won't just discuss it with you, they will call you names, shout you down, and apparently, if you have the keys to the message board, they will silence you.

I really didn't have a dog in this fight, but I do feel sorry for Trout, he doesn't deserve this.


All due respect MVJ, you weren't around the program like we were and didn't see the reasons we wanted him gone besides the basketball related items. I'm not going to dig all that crap up again but trust me, there were issues there that most outsiders didn't have to deal with and didn't understand.


Yes, you are right, I was an outsider. I didn't know all the little secrets. That said, I believe that short of Sandusky type allegations, Hinson didn't deserve to be treated the way he was. It was beyond what a mediocre coach with maybe a few skeletons deserved. Hinson not withstanding, I, was an outsider, and short of having a different opinion, didn't deserve any of the treatment I received- and you know exactly what I received. Without going any deeper into this, you know exactly what I am talking about. And yes, the behavior exhibited by this small group of Bear fans was designed to intimidate me, was over the top and wrong.

I honestly wish all involved could resolve their differences privately, but I hold out little hope. What is spinning out of control over on that board should be expected. It is the way these people behave.
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Re: Coaches controlling message boards?

Postby offinthewoods » December 6th, 2011, 4:55 pm

kept laughing every time MVJ just used the word "short" or "small" in a thread about Barry...
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Re: Coaches controlling message boards?

Postby MSUBear42 » December 6th, 2011, 5:21 pm

offinthewoods wrote:kept laughing every time MVJ just used the word "short" or "small" in a thread about Barry...

Well, it's no small task to stand up for Barry.
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Re: Coaches controlling message boards?

Postby WSUbballer » December 6th, 2011, 9:48 pm

Can I ask which rule I broke to get my post deleted? (By PM, if necessary)
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Re: Coaches controlling message boards?

Postby offinthewoods » December 6th, 2011, 9:50 pm

MSUBear42 wrote:
offinthewoods wrote:kept laughing every time MVJ just used the word "short" or "small" in a thread about Barry...

Well, it's no small task to stand up for Barry.


Don't sell him short. He won't be looked down upon by many people.
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Re: Coaches controlling message boards?

Postby WSUbballer » December 6th, 2011, 9:51 pm

Also, just to add, at least 42 knew how to take care of the trolls on his board. At Shockernet, the new administration almost encourages trolling and takes down anyone defending the home ground. An amateur production, at the very most.
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Re: Coaches controlling message boards?

Postby MSUBear42 » December 6th, 2011, 9:57 pm

offinthewoods wrote:
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offinthewoods wrote:kept laughing every time MVJ just used the word "short" or "small" in a thread about Barry...

Well, it's no small task to stand up for Barry.


Don't sell him short. He won't be looked down upon by many people.

It kinda was his fault we kept coming up short, though. He could never quite stomp his way through to the big dance.
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Re: Coaches controlling message boards?

Postby troutangler » December 7th, 2011, 1:25 pm

WSUbballer wrote:Also, just to add, at least 42 knew how to take care of the trolls on his board. At Shockernet, the new administration almost encourages trolling and takes down anyone defending the home ground. An amateur production, at the very most.


Not sure what you read, but the root of this entire issue had nothing to do with trolling. It had to do with ghastly things like predicting the MSU football team's season or giving an opinion about who should get more minutes during basketball season.

Once again, some people were and still are allowed to do the things above, not so much with others.
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Re: Coaches controlling message boards?

Postby MSUBear42 » December 7th, 2011, 1:56 pm

Maybe it was just your delivery? I'm not the only one who got a little tired of your pessimism on the board. Usually posters will be upset right after a loss or a losing streak, but it seemed to me like msu was just never good enough for you. I even had you unbanned because you do stir up conversation, but calling me some of those names via pm crossed the line. I let you back on the board and then that same day you pretty much said one of our players had no reason to be playing ever. To me, there's a difference between that and saying in a game thread to bench someone who is having an off night.

I'm not someone out with a vengeance, I just don't take lightly to the constant attacking of how I was running my board. You're right though, no one will ever be as good as letsgobears. If I kept a cooler head, we wouldn't be having this conversation and wasting everyone's time over here. For that, I am sorry.
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