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So true, so true. Way to go Bison.

ESPN report:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=302472305

MVCfans wrote:Kansas must really dislike teams associated with the Missouri Valley by now.

Which is funny because SDSU plays them in 2012! Of course by that time Kansas will have righted the ship. Right? No takers on that?

Great win Bison!

Kansas must be very, very bad this year. Very bad. I hope Turner Gill has a "Plan "B" in the works. Coaching at Kansas may have killed his career. Oh well, next year, the Big XII becomes another WAC, Kansas might fit in.

Games like this just go to show that despite all of the money, the differences between the haves and the have nots just really isn't that big, at least in terms of competition.

unipanther99 wrote:Games like this just go to show that despite all of the money, the differences between the haves and the have nots just really isn't that big, at least in terms of competition.

Not really. In terns of football this year, Kansas is a have not. They had a season go way south on them last year. Their stars graduated, with the coaching turmoil, players quit and recruiting came to a complete standstill. Eventually, the coach was fired. You now have a new, young coach trying to duct tape the program back together. They appear to be much further back than I imagined. They may only win one or two games all year. Conversely, you have NDSU, a very good 1-AA program. If there were to be a 1-AA beating a 1-A, this would be it. And with all that, the win is still considered an upset.

In terms of football, Kansas is not remotely a have. They pretended for a couple of years, but they are hardly a have. In fact, during the recent conference realignment fiasco, Kansas, the big basketball power that they are, was just about orphaned. None of the real haves gave two cents about the University of Kansas. They still don't.

Theee Catrabbit wrote:

MVCfans wrote:Kansas must really dislike teams associated with the Missouri Valley by now.

Which is funny because SDSU plays them in 2012! Of course by that time Kansas will have righted the ship. Right? No takers on that?

You might have to go to Rock Chalk land if you want somebody to bite?

MoValley John wrote:

unipanther99 wrote:Games like this just go to show that despite all of the money, the differences between the haves and the have nots just really isn't that big, at least in terms of competition.

Not really. In terns of football this year, Kansas is a have not. They had a season go way south on them last year. Their stars graduated, with the coaching turmoil, players quit and recruiting came to a complete standstill. Eventually, the coach was fired. You now have a new, young coach trying to duct tape the program back together. They appear to be much further back than I imagined. They may only win one or two games all year. Conversely, you have NDSU, a very good 1-AA program. If there were to be a 1-AA beating a 1-A, this would be it. And with all that, the win is still considered an upset.

In terms of football, Kansas is not remotely a have. They pretended for a couple of years, but they are hardly a have. In fact, during the recent conference realignment fiasco, Kansas, the big basketball power that they are, was just about orphaned. None of the real haves gave two cents about the University of Kansas. They still don't.

This is more true than I realized. KU might be the worst team in the Big XII, but I was still surprised at the outcome. ESPN Big XII blogger wrote a good article on the the game and points out the issues Gill faces at KU this year: http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/ ... ndict-gill