Wufan wrote:BirdsEyeView wrote:LanceShock wrote:If WSU left, RPI is the least of any Valley team's worries that is aspiring to get an at large bid. A bigger issue, where being in the Valley has hurt WSU the last two year, is that it removes two games from the schedule against a team that (at least for now and into the foreseeable future) that can help give a team some of the good wins needed to get an at large. If you are a Valley team and something goes wrong with your nonconference schedule (ie an injury to a key player during the nonconference or opponents performing below what would have been expected), and all of a sudden you are looking at needing to win Arch Madness to go to the NCAA tournament.
100% agree in the league's current state.
Can SIU get back to it's mid 2000's glory days?
ISUr is trending up every year since Muller arrived in terms of final standings in the league, can it continue? Loyola and MSU is recruiting well (coaching holding them back a bit)
UNI - Always in the mix
Bradley on a 5 year plan to regain respectability.
Some schools like ISUb are a recruit or two away (look at what Odum did to that program for 4 years).
Marginal improvement from each. Get a few in the top 100 RPI every year and better league wins can be had to improve NCAA resumes
This should be the plan regardless of any realignment.
BCPanther wrote:Its all about non-con scheduling. There are too many teams playing way too many 250+ RPI teams.
You don't have to go crazy and schedule like UNI and Wichita do and where Illinois State is getting to (good on you Birds), but you can't play 4 SWAC schools and 3 Ohio Valley schools and hope to have anything resembling decent numbers.
I'm not sure what Wichita has outside of Oklahoma next year but I'm sure it will be very good. UNI has Battle 4 Atlantis, @ North Carolina, Xavier in Cedar Falls and Iowa State in Des Moines and its also rumored that our Mtn West game is UNLV in Cedar Falls. Even if everybody else would come half way, it would make a massive difference.
Redbirdgrad wrote:This is a tough one. The MVC has survived many name schools leaving, and it's still been able to right the ship.
ShoxNAwe wrote:Redbirdgrad wrote:This is a tough one. The MVC has survived many name schools leaving, and it's still been able to right the ship.
Not so much. The Valley used to be the #1 conference in the country. If you all want to fight over being 12th or 14th or 16th if/when WSU departs, enjoy your boatride in the toilet.
Redbirdgrad wrote:
LOL. The Valley isn't going into the toilet with just Wichita leaving and adding another team in (if that even happens).
Now, if that move causes a UNI and ISU or others to improve into FBS for football and make a conference move due to that as well... then we're talking.
But Wichita alone wont tank the Valley.
TheObserver wrote:Redbirdgrad wrote:
LOL. The Valley isn't going into the toilet with just Wichita leaving and adding another team in (if that even happens).
Now, if that move causes a UNI and ISU or others to improve into FBS for football and make a conference move due to that as well... then we're talking.
But Wichita alone wont tank the Valley.
LOL.
So if UNI or Illinois State leaves the Valley, it's in the toilet, but if WSU leaves, it can survive? LOL. Ok.
UNI leaving would be far more damaging than if Illinois State left. UNI has a history of winning in this league, has recent NCAA Tournament appearances/success, and has been consistently above average for a far longer time than Illinois State, who for all we know could be a hot Johnny-come-lately and tank after their load of seniors graduate. So please.
Also, you're assuming a lot with these FBS aspirations. I'm gonna go ahead and say it's way more likely the Valley hits #16 in the RPI after WSU leaves than UNI or Illinois State joining FBS football.
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