Valley Game #13

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Re: Valley Game #13

Postby Redhawk » February 8th, 2017, 10:56 am

UNIFanSince1983 wrote:
Cdizzle wrote:
UNIFanSince1983 wrote:The insinuation though is that UNI some how always gets favored by the refs. That is a very subjective matter that we will have to agree to disagree on.

I would like to say that I'm not insinuating anything. I'm flat out saying it and calling a spade a spade.


That is strange coming from a WSU fan who's team is actually shooting the most free throws in the league. I would think you would realize that style of play has a big factor in how games are officiated.


The Shockers lead in most FT's because they have the most playmakers in the league that can put pressure on a defense producing foul calls. UNI has truly only one in Morgan.
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Re: Valley Game #13

Postby UNIFanSince1983 » February 8th, 2017, 11:02 am

Redhawk wrote:The Shockers lead in most FT's because they have the most playmakers in the league that can put pressure on a defense producing foul calls. UNI has truly only one in Morgan.


We have a big man who touches the ball in the paint probably more than any other team in the league. We also have a low assist rate. Probably due to how much our guys drive and go 1 on 1. And we force teams to shoot a much high rate of 3pt FGs than they normally would. You can say what you want and be pissed about it, but it has been our system for years under Jake and Mac. When you have a team that makes a high % of FTs why wouldn't you try to maximize those attempts?
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Re: Valley Game #13

Postby Stickboy46 » February 8th, 2017, 11:06 am

UNIFanSince1983 wrote:
Redhawk wrote:The Shockers lead in most FT's because they have the most playmakers in the league that can put pressure on a defense producing foul calls. UNI has truly only one in Morgan.


We have a big man who touches the ball in the paint probably more than any other team in the league. We also have a low assist rate. Probably due to how much our guys drive and go 1 on 1. And we force teams to shoot a much high rate of 3pt FGs than they normally would. You can say what you want and be pissed about it, but it has been our system for years under Jake and Mac. When you have a team that makes a high % of FTs why wouldn't you try to maximize those attempts?


Exactly our point. You try to "maximize" them with some great acting. It works too, it has won you a couple of games you didn't deserve either. Just curious, what percentage of UNI practices is devoted to flopping? 20-25%?
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Re: Valley Game #13

Postby BirdsEyeView » February 8th, 2017, 11:24 am

UNIFanSince1983 wrote:
Cdizzle wrote:UNI tends to not get called for fouls. There is a GIANT difference. In fact, it's the entire point of this conversation.

Perhaps everyone else would quit jacking up so many 3s if running inside the 3pt line didn't result in bullcrap offensive fouls as Koch goes flying.

We can do this all day.


And maybe Koch wouldn't go flying if people wouldn't lower their shoulders like fullbacks.

You are right we can do this all day. :D

And Koch has fouled out of our last two games BTW. So we do get called for some fouls...


Fast forward to 33 seconds in......CHARGE on ISU last week!??? Huh?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3rZMWKyusk
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Re: Valley Game #13

Postby Cdizzle » February 8th, 2017, 11:34 am

Stickboy46 wrote:
UNIFanSince1983 wrote:
Redhawk wrote:The Shockers lead in most FT's because they have the most playmakers in the league that can put pressure on a defense producing foul calls. UNI has truly only one in Morgan.


We have a big man who touches the ball in the paint probably more than any other team in the league. We also have a low assist rate. Probably due to how much our guys drive and go 1 on 1. And we force teams to shoot a much high rate of 3pt FGs than they normally would. You can say what you want and be pissed about it, but it has been our system for years under Jake and Mac. When you have a team that makes a high % of FTs why wouldn't you try to maximize those attempts?


Exactly our point. You try to "maximize" them with some great acting. It works too, it has won you a couple of games you didn't deserve either. Just curious, what percentage of UNI practices is devoted to flopping? 20-25%?

Way too low.
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Re: Valley Game #13

Postby uniftw » February 8th, 2017, 11:35 am

BirdsEyeView wrote:
UNIFanSince1983 wrote:
Cdizzle wrote:UNI tends to not get called for fouls. There is a GIANT difference. In fact, it's the entire point of this conversation.

Perhaps everyone else would quit jacking up so many 3s if running inside the 3pt line didn't result in bullcrap offensive fouls as Koch goes flying.

We can do this all day.


And maybe Koch wouldn't go flying if people wouldn't lower their shoulders like fullbacks.

You are right we can do this all day. :D

And Koch has fouled out of our last two games BTW. So we do get called for some fouls...


Fast forward to 33 seconds in......CHARGE on ISU last week!??? Huh?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3rZMWKyusk

Do you have a highlight of the "flagrant" on Morgan?
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Re: Valley Game #13

Postby BirdsEyeView » February 8th, 2017, 11:40 am

uniftw wrote:
BirdsEyeView wrote:
Fast forward to 33 seconds in......CHARGE on ISU last week!??? Huh?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3rZMWKyusk

Do you have a highlight of the "flagrant" on Morgan?


Deflecting?

That was a bad flagrant call, but has nothing to do with the topic of being called for fouls (not the extent of a foul). Koch flops and yells to sell it. He should play soccer in Brazil.
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Re: Valley Game #13

Postby Cdizzle » February 8th, 2017, 11:42 am

BirdsEyeView wrote:
uniftw wrote:
BirdsEyeView wrote:
Fast forward to 33 seconds in......CHARGE on ISU last week!??? Huh?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3rZMWKyusk

Do you have a highlight of the "flagrant" on Morgan?


Deflecting?

That was a bad flagrant call, but has nothing to do with the topic of being called for fouls (not the extent of a foul). Koch flops and yells to sell it. He should play soccer in Brazil.

Yep. Not to mention, pretty much anyone I've seen associated with ISU has acknowledged that the Flagrant call was a joke. I've yet to see a UNI fan acknowledge that Koch is a giant flopper, in a long line of Jacobson-instructed floppers.
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Re: Valley Game #13

Postby BCPanther » February 8th, 2017, 11:43 am

BirdsEyeView wrote:
uniftw wrote:
BirdsEyeView wrote:
Fast forward to 33 seconds in......CHARGE on ISU last week!??? Huh?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3rZMWKyusk

Do you have a highlight of the "flagrant" on Morgan?


Deflecting?

That was a bad flagrant call, but has nothing to do with the topic of being called for fouls (not the extent of a foul). Koch flops and yells to sell it. He should play soccer in Brazil.


That's, um, not Koch and McDonnell didn't even fall down. Not sure why you're using a call that everybody thinks is trash to prove your point...
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Re: Valley Game #13

Postby uniftw » February 8th, 2017, 11:51 am

Cdizzle wrote:
BirdsEyeView wrote:
Deflecting?

That was a bad flagrant call, but has nothing to do with the topic of being called for fouls (not the extent of a foul). Koch flops and yells to sell it. He should play soccer in Brazil.

Yep. Not to mention, pretty much anyone I've seen associated with ISU has acknowledged that the Flagrant call was a joke. I've yet to see a UNI fan acknowledge that Koch is a giant flopper, in a long line of Jacobson-instructed floppers.
That highlight wasn't Koch...

You want to bitch about that call, then you also need to point out the horrid call on the otherside. Go read PN or search back on twitter. All Panther fans said that wasn't a good charge call.
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