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Re: State of the Conference

Postby alap3 » December 15th, 2016, 10:05 pm

mvcfan wrote:
Blers wrote:But unless there's some millionaires on the board who can fund new facilities for some of these other schools trashing them and their opinions wont do much but drag down the overall convo and discourage others from posting. I'm all for disagreeing about basketball without the labeling of fan bases/personal attacks back and forth.


Supposedly when LUC was allowed into the MVC, one of the main reasons was because of the money they had. Spend some of it.

I believe there are plans for a new practice facility to be built so I guess they are spending some of it.
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Re: State of the Conference

Postby Cdizzle » December 16th, 2016, 9:35 am

Don't you already have a nice practice facility?
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Re: State of the Conference

Postby ahunte1 » December 16th, 2016, 9:42 am

Cdizzle wrote:Don't you already have a nice practice facility?


If that's a joke about the arena, well played.

If not, the answer is no. The expansion of the arena has offices, locker rooms, weight rooms, etc. Basketball and volleyball practice in Gentile, which is used for campus events as well as games. They have the ability to close the campus rec center courts and practice there if needed.

The department is working on plans for a new building (directly north of the arena) to be used as a practice facility for the court sports.

Down the road, they are looking at possible locations for a fieldhouse for other sports.
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Re: State of the Conference

Postby AceMatt » December 16th, 2016, 7:03 pm

Win-Loss Record in last 50 games played

Evansville 37-13
Wichita St 37-13
Northern Iowa 32-18
Illinois St 30-20
Loyola (Chi) 30-20
Southern Illinois 30-20
Indiana St 24-26
Missouri St 21-29
Drake 12-38
Bradley 11-39
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Re: State of the Conference

Postby BirdsEyeView » December 16th, 2016, 7:12 pm

AceMatt wrote:Win-Loss Record in last 50 games played

Evansville 37-13
Wichita St 37-13
Northern Iowa 32-18
Illinois St 30-20
Loyola (Chi) 30-20
Southern Illinois 30-20
Indiana St 24-26
Missouri St 21-29
Drake 12-38
Bradley 11-39


Add strength of schedule next to those records
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Re: State of the Conference

Postby Veritas » December 16th, 2016, 9:12 pm

AceMatt wrote:Win-Loss Record in last 50 games played

Evansville 37-13
Wichita St 37-13
Northern Iowa 32-18
Illinois St 30-20
Loyola (Chi) 30-20
Southern Illinois 30-20
Indiana St 24-26
Missouri St 21-29
Drake 12-38
Bradley 11-39


Not even sure if accurate, but you're bat shite crazy to insinuate that EU is better than UNI.
Does that include post season play (NCAA versus ???)

That's akin to writing team A beat team B who beat team C who beat team D who beat team E who beat team F who beat team U so now they should be considered National Champs.
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Re: State of the Conference

Postby mule » December 16th, 2016, 9:44 pm

Veritas wrote:
AceMatt wrote:Win-Loss Record in last 50 games played

Evansville 37-13
Wichita St 37-13
Northern Iowa 32-18
Illinois St 30-20
Loyola (Chi) 30-20
Southern Illinois 30-20
Indiana St 24-26
Missouri St 21-29
Drake 12-38
Bradley 11-39


Not even sure if accurate, but you're bat shite crazy to insinuate that EU is better than UNI.
Does that include post season play (NCAA versus ???)


That's akin to writing team A beat team B who beat team C who beat team D who beat team E who beat team F who beat team U so now they should be considered National Champs.

Just one of those crazy stats thrown around here that don't mean all that much. I'm also sure you meant UE.
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Re: State of the Conference

Postby specialsauce » December 16th, 2016, 10:18 pm

AceMatt wrote:Win-Loss Record in last 50 games played

Evansville 37-13
Wichita St 37-13
Northern Iowa 32-18
Illinois St 30-20
Loyola (Chi) 30-20
Southern Illinois 30-20
Indiana St 24-26
Missouri St 21-29
Drake 12-38
Bradley 11-39


Banner worthy?

But seriously, why 50 games? And what exactly is the point if that record resulted in irrelevant post season play?
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Re: State of the Conference

Postby Snaggletooth » December 16th, 2016, 10:57 pm

BirdsEyeView wrote:
AceMatt wrote:Win-Loss Record in last 50 games played

Evansville 37-13
Wichita St 37-13
Northern Iowa 32-18
Illinois St 30-20
Loyola (Chi) 30-20
Southern Illinois 30-20
Indiana St 24-26
Missouri St 21-29
Drake 12-38
Bradley 11-39


Add strength of schedule next to those records


I did a quick calculation for the last 3 seasons non-conference SOS

Evansville 181
WSU 51
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Re: State of the Conference

Postby LanceShock » December 17th, 2016, 7:54 am

specialsauce wrote:
AceMatt wrote:Win-Loss Record in last 50 games played

Evansville 37-13
Wichita St 37-13
Northern Iowa 32-18
Illinois St 30-20
Loyola (Chi) 30-20
Southern Illinois 30-20
Indiana St 24-26
Missouri St 21-29
Drake 12-38
Bradley 11-39


Banner worthy?

But seriously, why 50 games? And what exactly is the point if that record resulted in irrelevant post season play?

I went back and looked at the records for the last 50 games. For Evansville, that includes the 5 wins they got in the collegeinsider.com tournament giving them 5-0 for the 14-15 season in the calculations. They had 4 straight losses going into that tournament. For WSU, the 50 games starts with their loss in the Valley tournament and includes their Sweet Sixteen loss to Notre Dame. If the comparison is not exactly 50 games, WSU's record is better than Evansville's, unless you started with last years WSU loss to Tulsa when FVV was injured.

Those 50 games would also include the losses WSU picked up with FVV out last year.

Here are the records for the last 3 seasons:
WSU 64-16
Evansville 56-25
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