State of the Conference

[Redhawk]

Thanks LanceShock!

Not sure about the 50 game reference but anyone watching the Valley knows that WSU has been far and away the best team in the league....and at points one of the best in the country...the last few years.

Figures lie and liers fiqure but any attempts to equate WSU to Evansville are ridiculous!

[ACECARD]

In no way does the fact that the Aces record of the last 50 games is the the same as WSU's infer that the Aces were as good as WSU. Only a complete fool could come that conclusion. It just means that over that period of time their records were the same. During that same period of time my high school teams record was way better than either team. Sure as hell doesn't make them a better team than the Aces or Shockers.

[specialsauce]

Then I'm just wondering what the point of the post was, other than an obvious troll job.

[ACECARD]

Then I'm just wondering what the point of the post was, other than an obvious troll job.

Well, I guess that's something that either one of us will ever know.

[AceMatt]

Just a stat that I figured fit into the state of the conference topic. Nothing was meant to be inferred. Teams with identical records were listed in alphabetical order and I purposely avoided ordinal rankings.

[Wufan]

Number of he ars with a winning conference record in last decade:

Creighton 7
Northern Iowa 7
WSU 7
Illinois State 5
Indiana State 3
Southern Illinois 3
Bradley 2
Evansville 2
Missouri State 2
Drake 1
Loyola 0

[Blers]

Looking down the line...Red bird fans: Any idea at this point at what next year will look like? Seems like you rely heavily on Paris Lee and Deonte Hawkins on offense and the depth isn't really there yet... thoughts on their future? Any big time replacements coming in to fill their roles? Most redbird fans here seem to not like Muller's coaching tactics and argue he relies too much on these guys talents so i'm curious if there's a fear of what's to come when you lose arguably you're two best players.

[BirdsEyeView]

Looking down the line...Red bird fans: Any idea at this point at what next year will look like? Seems like you rely heavily on Paris Lee and Deonte Hawkins on offense and the depth isn't really there yet... thoughts on their future? Any big time replacements coming in to fill their roles? Most redbird fans here seem to not like Muller's coaching tactics and argue he relies too much on these guys talents so i'm curious if there's a fear of what's to come when you lose arguably you're two best players.

We had better hope Elijah Clarence is the real deal at pg. Early indications are that he is.
We do add two D1 transfers...Milik Yarbrough (dad played for ISUr - transfer from SLU) and Christian Romine (transfer from UTEP).
Also, add a really solid wing, imo, juco transfer William Tinsley. He can really shoot it.

Uncertainty galore though, especially considering Muller's tenure has been filled with roster turnover every year (5-6 players). That, above all else, is the biggest issue for continuity and thus long-term success for this program. And, also why it's impossible to predict year after year what to expect with our program.

McIntosh will still be around, so that's good (assuming he doesn't leave too).

[Blers]

Interesting. Thanks Birdseye!

[Redhawk]

Looking down the line...Red bird fans: Any idea at this point at what next year will look like? Seems like you rely heavily on Paris Lee and Deonte Hawkins on offense and the depth isn't really there yet... thoughts on their future? Any big time replacements coming in to fill their roles? Most redbird fans here seem to not like Muller's coaching tactics and argue he relies too much on these guys talents so i'm curious if there's a fear of what's to come when you lose arguably you're two best players.

We had better hope Elijah Clarence is the real deal at pg. Early indications are that he is.
We do add two D1 transfers...Milik Yarbrough (dad played for ISUr - transfer from SLU) and Christian Romine (transfer from UTEP).
Also, add a really solid wing, imo, juco transfer William Tinsley. He can really shoot it.

Uncertainty galore though, especially considering Muller's tenure has been filled with roster turnover every year (5-6 players). That, above all else, is the biggest issue for continuity and thus long-term success for this program. And, also why it's impossible to predict year after year what to expect with our program.

McIntosh will still be around, so that's good (assuming he doesn't leave too).

Nice assessment Birdseye. Really early starting lineup projection would be:

Clarence, Tinsley, Yarbourgh, McIntosh, Fayne.

Scoring shouldn't be a problem with Tinsley's shooting ability and the fact that Yarbrough avg. about 10 and 5 for two years in the A10. Clarence will be the wildcard...but the optimism is strong on his ability.
Will be a much deeper bench with the addition of Romine and a healthy King David to back up Fayne.